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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences
Posted by: joe becker
Date/Time: 2011/10/16 14:06:13

For me the point is not internal events but internal experience.

Our differences is in whether we consider that there are internal events of a phenomenological character--like seeing, hearing, smelling, feeling pain etc. and in whether this phenomenological character is involved in subsequent activity.?I do not contend there are no cases without this.?I note again that I contend there are cases with this, and refer to previous posts as to why I emphasize this.

Question:?Is salience something that an organism internally experiences as per above??Or is it accountable adequately as some kind of neural event for you -- as you hold for the plan itself??Since you say it is a weak form of consicousness, maybe you are taking it as the kind of internal experience that I am emphasizing.?Then I would ask whether you see the experiencing of the salience--as opposed to the salience itself as a neural event -- as involved in subsequent behavior.

If you take a neural event as identical to what I call internal experience, then I think you enter into the ground of identity theory of consciousness, and that would mark a basic difference between us.


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Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:50:36Craig E. Nelson
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:54:22Bond, Trevor
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:58:24Leslie Smith
          Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:28:49Ann Olivier
               Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:31:14Leslie Smith
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:36:12Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 21:21:04Andre Hopper
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:42:24Leslie Smith
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:45:39Andre Hopper
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:31:43Leslie Smith
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:34:17Andre Hopper
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:48:27Ayman-Nolley, Saba
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:53:40joe becker
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:59:03Michael Lamport Commons
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:10:52joe becker
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:26:24Leslie Smith
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:38:33Ann Olivier
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:42:48Leslie Smith
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:52:16Ann Olivier
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:56:03Michael Lamport Commons
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 23:42:14Leslie Smith
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:27:25Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:26:27Michael Lamport Commons
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:44:06joe becker
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:58:09joe becker
          Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:54:35Michael Lamport Commons
               Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:55:54joe becker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:58:26Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:00:49joe becker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:02:20Michael Lamport Commons
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:09:11Ann Olivier
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:04:17Michael Lamport Commons
     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:06:13joe becker

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