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Topic: Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences
Posted by: joe becker
Date/Time: 2011/10/9 12:44:06

I suggest as follows:?The common ground across the fitting together in art and the issue of logical necessity is the common ground across (a) form in ideas on artistic activity and (b) inter-defined conceptual systems in ideas on knowledge construction.?

As to the idea of form in artistic activity, consider the discussion by Schneider of Manet's painting the luncheon. "..the lemon on the table may have been part of the meal but more importantly it answers Manet's need for a spot of yellow."?Elaborating on this idea, one might say that to appreciate the painting more fully one needs to experience the spot of yellow not merely as representing a lemon resting on the table, but as called for by the network of relations among the colors (textures, shapes, etc) within the painting.?To relate art to conceptual reasoning in a deeply constructivist way, we might do well to focus on how this idea of form relates to the idea that a system of inter-defined concepts underlies our experience of the logical power of a deductive argument.?

Central to the above suggestion is the idea that it is important to emphasize the phenomenological aspect on both sides--the appreciation of the art work, and the experience of the logical power of a deductive argument.?I consider that this develops Piaget's idea of the feeling of logical necessity in a way that he did not pursue.

This line of thinking involves a different/closer orientation of our ideas on perception and and our ideas on cognition to one another than generally found in Piaget's work.?This opens new paths for thinking about the evolution of organisms' experience of the environment in terms of objects (cf. object concept) and its relation to the development of sensory and conceptual experiences both evolutionarily and ontogenetically.

(In my view, it also goes against distinctions made between sensory experience and cognition in Kantian literature., which seems to me related to Piaget's way of separating the two.)

For some work in this direction, I offer?Becker, J. (2008). Conceptualizing mind and consciousness: Using constructivist ideas to transcend the physical bind.?Human Development, 51, 165-189.


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Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:50:36Craig E. Nelson
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:54:22Bond, Trevor
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/5 12:58:24Leslie Smith
          Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:28:49Ann Olivier
               Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:31:14Leslie Smith
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 20:36:12Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 21:21:04Andre Hopper
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:42:24Leslie Smith
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:45:39Andre Hopper
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:31:43Leslie Smith
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:34:17Andre Hopper
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:48:27Ayman-Nolley, Saba
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:53:40joe becker
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:59:03Michael Lamport Commons
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:10:52joe becker
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:26:24Leslie Smith
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:38:33Ann Olivier
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:42:48Leslie Smith
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:52:16Ann Olivier
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:56:03Michael Lamport Commons
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/8 23:42:14Leslie Smith
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:27:25Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/12 14:26:27Michael Lamport Commons
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/9 12:44:06joe becker
     Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/15 22:58:09joe becker
          Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:54:35Michael Lamport Commons
               Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:55:54joe becker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 13:58:26Ann Olivier
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:00:49joe becker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:02:20Michael Lamport Commons
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:09:11Ann Olivier
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:04:17Michael Lamport Commons
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Example from Humanities and Social Sciences2011/10/16 14:06:13joe becker

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